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Junior Honors English: The Great Gatsby: read novel, writing marginal notes analyzing Fitzgerald's message/critiqe of the "American Dream"

Senior College Prep English: Raisin in the Sun essay due Tuesday, March 29th.

Thursday, October 14, 2010

Quotations in papers

Quotations and references to book provide evidence for you argument. For introductory information, access the site below. Read all information, paying special attention to "How to Introduce Quotations in your discussion."

http://people.hsc.edu/drjclassics/syllabi/IH/writingGuidelines.shtm

How do I incoporate quotations into my paper?
Quotations should fit into your argument, not appear out of thin air.

Always integrate quotations into your text. NEVER DROP A QUOTATION IN YOUR ESSAY! In other words, you must use your own words to introduce a quotation.
          Must provide context of quotation (who said it and why) in order for the quotation to make sense to the reader.
          To integrate a quotation properly within a paragraph, a good writer usually writes one sentence to introduce the quotation, a second sentence that includes the quotation, and a third sentence to comment on the significance of the quotation.
          Need to explicitly explain how the quotation is proving your argument.

Now you will try it. Using your rough draft of paper, rework any "drop in quotation", any parts of your paper that are confusing because you do not fully explain context of quotation or its relevance.

84 comments:

Kimberly Rotter said...
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Kimberly Rotter said...

Here is an example for you

Original:
Summer represent childhood innocence and friendship. Everyone in the school of Devon gets along during the summer. "Blitz ball was the surprise of the summer. Everybody played it" (pg. 39). This simple example of the boys playing a game together shows that during summer season all the boys were together, they were happy.

Revised: Summer at Devon school represent childhood innocence. Knowles establishes this symbol through the boy’s activities, emotions, and views. For example, the boys are constantly playing during this season. They play childish games including Blitzball, which “was the surprise of the summer. Everybody played it” (Knowles 39). During their games, the boys were happy, unconcerned with any adult problems like the current war...

Stefi said...

Original: An example of when the weather setting the mood and the tone is:"The sun was the blessing of the morning, the one celebrating element, an aesthete with no purpose except to shed radiance" (Knowles, 132)

Revised: Summer is a type of weather that sets the mood and tone of the story. Summer is very bright and sunny therefore, that can help contribute to how characters feel."The sun was the blessing of the morning, the one celebrating element, an aesthete with no purpose except to shed radiance"(Knowles, 132) The sun being out clearly made one of the characters feel radiant and happy.

Anonymous said...

In a separate peace finny and gene are faced with a similar situation as Adam and eve. The boys are supposed to stay clear of the tree at the end of the campus whose branches hovered the water. The boys however couldn’t resist the temptation and there for made this tree into a risk game. They named this group of kids that jumped into the water the super suicide society of the summer. "Well form a suicide society, and the memberships requirement is one jump out of this tree"(31). This tree was a representation of the same tree in the story of Adam and eve.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Stefi,

Summer sets the mood and tone of the story. Summer is very bright and sunny at Devon school, for "The sun was the blessing of the morning, the one celebrating element, an aesthete with no purpose except to shed radiance"(Knowles, 132) Therefore, summer represents characters feelings. (Give example of this)

Unknown said...

Original:

Finny tells Gene over and over again that he'll be a star athlete; " 'How do you expect to be an athlete if you smoke like a forest fre?' He drew me incresngly away...into a world inhabited by just himself and me...training for the Olympics of 1944." (Knowles 119).

New

Finny wants nothing more than for Gene to be an olympic atlete, promtping him to draw Gene away from the hubbub of the school, "into a world inhabited by just [Finny and Gene]...trainng for the Olympics of 1944." (Knowles 119). Finny catches Gene smoking a cigarette one day, which iritates Finny, because bad health can jeopordize their Olympic plan. Finny proceeds to exclaim to Gene, "How do you expect to be an athlete if you smoke like a forest fire?" (Knowles 119).

Anonymous said...

Even though gene and Finny were best friends, Gene was jealous of Finny for alomst everything. He was jealous of his looks, his athleticism, and even his ability to get anyway with almost anything he did wrong. Even in the begining of the book Gene starts to show how jelaous of Finny he actually is like in this quote that he says in chapter two; "He has gotten away with everyhting. I felt a sudden stab of disapointment. That was because I just wanted to see some exctment; that must have been it." (Knowles 28) Even though Gene is not admitting to himself yet that he really does have these feelings of jealousy towards Finny, he is starting to show the reader how the rest of the story will unfold.

Unknown said...

Original:After being put in the Infirmary, Finny receives a visit from Gene. In this visit Finny wishes there never was a war. However, he says that "I'll hate in everywhere if i'm not in the war! Why do you think i kept saying there wasn't any war all winter?" ( Knowles 190)

New: After relizing that Gene has betrayed him, Finny falls down a flight of marble stairs injuring his leg again. He is then put into the infirmary. While there Finny receives a visit from Gene. In this visit the topic of the war is brought up and how Finny will be unable to participate in it. Gene tries to soothe him by saying that will be able to go elsewhere, Finny then explodes by saying"I'll hate in everywhere if i'm not in the war! WHy do you think i kept saying there wasn't any war all winter?" ( Knowles 190)

Anonymous said...

Original: It was just the quote.

Revised: According to Gene, he and the boys at Devon did not spend their summer in fear, "We spent the summer in complete selfishness, I'm happy to say. The people in the world who could be selfish in the summer of 1942 were a small band, and I'm glad we took advantage of it." (Knowles 30)During the summer, the war was progressing, but as children,they believed that they were invincible, so they could still be careless.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Taylor,

In A Separate Peace Finny and Gene live in a similar situation as Adam and eve. The boys are supposed to stay clear of the tree, whose branches hovered over the water?????, at the end of the campus. The boys however couldn’t resist the temptation. They constantly visited the tress….(TO DO WHAT?) They named this group of kids that jumped into the water the Super Suicide Society. WHO SAYS THIS AND IN WHAT CONETEXT. "Well form a suicide society, and the memberships requirement is one jump out of this tree"(31). Because of the ??????, This tree was a representation of the same tree in the story of Adam and eve.

Unknown said...

Original: Gene, out of jelaousy, bounces on a tree limb knocking Finny off."What was I doing up here anyway? Why did I let Finny talk me into stupid things like this? Was he getting some kind of hold over me?" (Knowles 9)

Revised: Gene, out of jelaousy, bounces on a tree limb knocking Finny off. Gene's jealousy lead him into thinking Finny is out to get him: "What was I doing up here anyway? Why did I let Finny talk me into stupid things like this? Was he getting some kind of hold over me?" (Knowles 9)

Anonymous said...

Original:
Most kids could wonder from the school. "We got on our bikes and slipped away from Devon along a back road." (pg 46).

Revised:
Since the rules were more lenient during the summer session, it allowed the boy to be more free, and drift away from Devon at times. An example of students being able to wander off campus can be seen thru the quote " We got on our bikes and slipped away from Devon along a back road."(46pg).

Stefi said...

Summer sets the mood and tone of the story. Summer is very bright and sunny at Devon school, for "The sun was the blessing of the morning, the one celebrating element, an aesthete with no purpose except to shed radiance"(Knowles, 132) Therefore, summer represents characters feelings because the weather and sunlight in the summer contributed to how Finny was feeling in school on that particular day.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Ginny,

Finny desperately desires that Gene becomes an Olympic athlete, prompting him to draw Gene away from the hubbub of the school, "into a world inhabited by just [Finny and Gene]...training for the Olympics of 1944." (Knowles 119). Finny catches Gene smoking a cigarette one day, which irritates Finny, because bad health can jeopardize their Olympic plan. Finny proceeds to exclaim to Gene, "How do you expect to be an athlete if you smoke like a forest fire?" (Knowles 119).

Kimberly Rotter said...

Kate,

Even though Gene and Finny were best friends, Gene was jealous of Finny because of his looks, his athleticism, and even his ability to get away with almost anything he did wrong. From the beginning of the book, Gene reveals this jealousy. (WHAT DID FINNY DO?) "He has gotten away with everything. I felt a sudden stab of disappointment. That was because I just wanted to see some excitement; that must have been it." (Knowles 28) Even though Gene is not admitting to himself yet that he really does have these feelings of jealousy towards Finny, he is starting to show the reader how the rest of the story will unfold.

Anonymous said...

The quote by Gene that says "Nothing endures, not a tree, not love, not even death by violence." (Knowles 14)This shows how much what he did to his friend affected he for the rest of his life. The death of Finny, and the months leading up to it, made Gene a hardened person which stayed with forever. He also seems to have become very unemotional to life because as he says "nothing endures".

meghan said...

Original:One person who helps change the atmosphere at Devon is headmaster Ludsbury. When Mr. Ludsbury returns, so does the customary fashion of the winter terms: "during the winter...anything unexpected in a student with suspicion, seeming to feel that anything we said or did was potentially illegal."(Knowles 23). The layed back feeling of the summer is onw gone and the seriousness and dullness of the winter term is being enforced again.
Revised:One person who helps change the atmosphere at Devon from the summer session where the boys are free to do as they please, to the winter session filled with heavily implemented rules, is Mr. Ludsbury. When Mr. Ludsbury returns, so does the customary fashion of the winter terms:"during the winter...anything unexpected in a student with suspicion, seeming to feel that anything we said or did was potentially illegal."(knowles 23). The layed back feeling of the summer is now gone and the seriousness and dullness of the winter term is being enforced again.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Jamie,

Finny rushes out of the meeting (explain meeting) after realizing that Gene has betrayed him. He falls down a flight of marble stairs injuring his leg again. While in the infirmary, Gene visits him and the discuss the war. Finny is upsat (WHY?) Gene tries to soothe Finny by saying that will be able to go elsewhere. Finny explodes at him, saying "I'll hate in everywhere if I’m not in the war! Why do you think i kept saying there wasn't any war all winter?" ( Knowles 190)

Kimberly Rotter said...

Anna,

According to Gene, he and the boys at Devon did not spend their summer in fear, insteading spending "the summer in complete selfishness, I'm happy to say. The people in the world who could be selfish in the summer of 1942 were a small band, and I'm glad we took advantage of it." (Knowles 30)During the summer, the war was progressing, but as children,they believed that they were invincible, so they could still be careless.

Unknown said...

About Finn being pushed from a tree:

Original: In the back of his head he must know: Gene has even tried to admit to Finny when he visited his house: " 'I was thinking about you and the accident because I caused it' " (Knowles 62). Gene goes on to explain how he more or less pushed Finny from a tree, to which Finny responds, "Of course you didn't do it. YOu damn fool. Sit down, you damn fool." (Knowles 62)

New: In the back of his head, he must know what really happened. Gene had even admitted it to Finy dring a visit to his house: "I was thinking abot ou and the accident because I caused it." (Knowles 62). Gene continues explaining how he had caused Finny to fall, but Fnny won't have any of it. He tell Gene, "Of corse you didn't do it. You damn fool." (Knowles 62)

Kimberly Rotter said...

Ryan,

SET UP THE SCENE FIRST. WHERE ARE BOYS AND WHY? THEN INTRDIUCE QUOTE: "What was I doing up here anyway? Why did I let Finny talk me into stupid things like this? Was he getting some kind of hold over me?" (Knowles 9). Gene, out of jealousy, bounces on a tree limb, which knocks Finny of balance. He falls.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Ian,

Since the rules were more lenient during the summer session, it allowed the boy to be more free, enouraging them to drift away from Devon at times. Students would wander off campus. Gene and Finny constantly "got on our bikes and slipped away from Devon along a back road."(46pg).

Kimberly Rotter said...

Ian,

Since the rules were more lenient during the summer session, it allowed the boy to be more free, enouraging them to drift away from Devon at times. Students would wander off campus. Gene and Finny constantly "got on our bikes and slipped away from Devon along a back road."(46pg).

meghan said...

Original:MR. Ludsbury does not agree with what went on in the summer term and shows he intends to make changes by saying, "I think you have slipped in any number of ways since last year."9knowles 81)
NEw:Upon his return it is evident he does not agree with what took place in the summer term and the lack of order throughout the school, "I think you slipped in any number of ways since last year."(knopwles 81). He is portraying his intentions of changing Devon back to its traditional ways.

Anonymous said...

Even though gene and Finny were best friends, Gene was jealous of Finny for alomst everything. He was jealous of his looks, his athleticism, and even his ability to get anyway with almost anything he did wrong. Even in the begining of the book Gene starts to show how jelaous of Finny he actually is. Like when Finny some how finds a way to talk his way out of getting in trouble for wearing the schools tie as a belt. This is what Gene is think after this situation accures "He has gotten away with everyhting. I felt a sudden stab of disapointment. That was because I just wanted to see some exctment; that must have been it." (Knowles 28) Even though Gene is not admitting to himself yet that he really does have these feelings of jealousy towards Finny, he is starting to show the reader how the rest of the story will unfold.

Unknown said...

The Bible story Cain and Abel relates to Gene and Finnys relationship. Cain and Abel is about two brothers in which one brother, Cain, murders his brother, Abel, out of jealousy. Knowles bases Gene jealousy for Finny off of the Cain and Abel tale. In A Separate Peace Gene and Finny are the best of friends in the begining of the story, Finny shows this by saying "you cant come to the shore with just anybodyand you cant come with youreslf an at this teenage period in my life the prober person is your best pal... which is what you are." (knowles 48). as the summer continues on though Gene begins t realize how great Finny really is and comes to the conclusion they are in a competition. Gene becomes obsessed with beating Finny, when it came to school he knew he was better then Finny so Gene would work hare to get the best grades and say they were "even" on some level.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Meghan,

The customary fashion of the winter terms accompanies Mr. Ludsbury’s return, for "during the winter...anything unexpected in a student with suspicion, seeming to feel that anything we said or did was potentially illegal."(knowles 23). Mr. Ludsbury is instrumental in changing the atmosphere at Devon from the summer session where the boys are free to do as they please to the winter session filled with heavily implemented rules. The layed back feeling of the summer is now gone and the seriousness and dullness of the winter term is being enforced again.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Meghan,

Upon Mr. Ludsbury's return it is evident he does not agree with what took place in the summer term and the lack of order throughout the school. (STILL NEED MORE CONTEXT. WHO SAID IT? WHY? WHAT IS CONTEXT?) "I think you slipped in any number of ways since last year."(Knowles 81). He intends to change Devon back to its traditional ways.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Katie,

Even though Gene and Finny were best friends, Gene was jealous of Finny for almost everything. He was jealous of his looks, his athleticism, and even his ability to get away with almost anything he did wrong. From the beginning of the book Gene reveals his jealousy of Finny. Finny, breaking a rule, is able to wear his school tie as a belt without being punished. Gene jealously thinks that, "He has gotten away with everything. I felt a sudden stab of disappointment. That was because I just wanted to see some excitement; that must have been it." (Knowles 28) Even though Gene is not admitting to himself yet that he really does have these feelings of jealousy towards Finny, the reader clearly sees it.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Emily,

Knowles bases Gene and Finny’s relationship on the Bible story of Cain and Abel. According to the story, Cain and Abel were brothers. Cain, though, murders Abel out of jealousy. Knowles bases Gene’s jealousy for Finny off of the Cain and Abel tale. Gene and Finny are best of friends in the beginning of the story.(SET UP QUOTATION MORE. WHERE IS FINNY WHEN HE SAYS THIS? WHO IS HE SAYING THIS TO?) Finny shows this by saying "you cant come to the shore with just anybodyand you cant come with youreslf an at this teenage period in my life the prober person is your best pal... which is what you are." (knowles 48). As the summer continues, Gene begins to realize how great Finny really is (IN???) and comes to the conclusion they are in a competition. Gene becomes obsessed with beating Finny in some way. He focuses on school, working hard to get the best grades because he knew he could be better then Finny academically. Gene wanted to believe that they were "even" on some level. (REMEMBER TO SPECIFICALLY SAY HE IS JEALOUS).

Amelia said...

Despite being best friends, Gene couldn't help but envy Finny because of his ability to easily master everything he did and his amiable way with people. This reluctant jealousy shows when Gene thinks, "He had gotten away with everything. I felt a sudden stab of disappointment. That was because I just wanted to see some more excitement; that must have been it."(Knowles 21)

Unknown said...

The day that Gene visits Devon is described as a "kind of wet, self-pitying November day" (Knowles, 10), which sets the mood and makes the reader understand that this is not a good time for Gene and it warns us that things are not going so well.

Unknown said...

Original: "But of course, fifteen years before there had been a year going on. Perhaps the school wasn't as well kept in those days; perhaps varnish, like everything else, had gone to the war." Many were permanently affected by the war, as Gene was, even 15 yeats later. Gene could not accept the present reality; he had trouble remembering that they were not actually living in it anymore.


New: "But of course, fifteen years before there had been a year going on. Perhaps the school wasn't as well kept in those days; perhaps varnish, like everything else, had gone to the war." Many were permanently affected by the war, as Gene was, even 15 yeats later. Gene could not accept the present reality; he had trouble realizing that the world was not stuggling to pull themselves through it any longer. His senior year at Devon had such a lasting imprint on him that he would sometimes wonder why there were no news from the war front.

Amelia said...

IN the beginning of this novel Gene and Finny are what one might readily describe as best friends.

In the beginning of this novel Gene and Finny are best friends.

Grace said...

O: "The fact that he could still make a lith remark pulled me back a little..." (Knowles, 62) says Gene when he goes to visit Finny in the infirmary after his break.

N: When visiting Finny in the infirmary after the fall, Gene takes notice of Finny's inaility to take anything seriously. "The fact that he could still make a light remark pulled me back a little..." (Knowles, 64)

Kimberly Rotter said...

Amelia,

Despite being best friends, Gene couldn't help but envy Finny because of his ability to easily master everything he did and his amiable way with people.(TELL STORY OF TIE TO PROVIDE EXAMPLE OF THIS. THAT WILL THEN SET UP QUOTE) This reluctant jealousy shows when Gene thinks, "He had gotten away with everything. I felt a sudden stab of disappointment. That was because I just wanted to see some more excitement; that must have been it."(Knowles 21)

Kimberly Rotter said...

Brooke,

The day that Gene visits Devon is described as a "kind of wet, self-pitying November day" (Knowles, 10), which sets the mood and makes the reader understand that this is not a good time for Gene. The weather warns that things (VAGUE WORD-PICK NEW ONE) are not going so well.

Amelia said...

revised:

It's not until a comment Finny makes that Gene's fantasy rivalry falls away, realizing there was no possible way that Finny felt like they were adversaries. This shocking revelation brings Gene to think " He had never been jealous of me for a second. Now I knew that there never was and never could have been any rivalry between us. I was not of the same quality as he."(knowles 51)

Unknown said...

By the end of the summer, the boys realized that it was time to get more serious, and they were not ready for it. "The Summer Session closed, officially came to an end. But to me it seemed irresolutely suspened, halted strangely before its time" (Knowles, 67). The boys didn't want to grow up, they wanted to stay young forever, but just like seasons, everything has to change sooner or later.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Val,


CONFUSING STARTING WITH A QUOTATION. NEED TO PROVIDE CONTEXT TO IT. WHO SAIS IT AND WHY.
"But of course, fifteen years before there had been a year going on. Perhaps the school wasn't as well kept in those days; perhaps varnish, like everything else, had gone to the war." Many were permanently affected by the war, as Gene was, even 15 yeats later. Gene could not accept the present reality; he had trouble realizing that the world was not stuggling to pull themselves through it any longer. His senior year at Devon had such a lasting imprint on him that he would sometimes wonder why there were no news from the war front.

Unknown said...

O: "'I don't know., I must have just lost my balance. It must have been that. I did have this idea, this feeling that when you were standing beside me, y-- I don't know, I had a kind of feeling. But you can't anything for sure from just feelings. And this feeling doesn't make any sense. It was a crazy idea, I must have been delirious. So I just have to forget it. I just fell.' He turned away to grope for something among the pillows 'that' all.' Then he glanced back at me, 'I'm sorry about that feeling I had.'" (Knowles, 66) This sincere apology, to -Gene- from -Finny- is just another snippet of proof that Finny is deluding himself into believing that Gene hasn't wronged him in any way whatsoever.

Amelia said...

TELL STORY OF TIE TO PROVIDE EXAMPLE OF THIS. THAT WILL THEN SET UP QUOTE)

what?

Kimberly Rotter said...

Grace and Amelia,

Good edits. Keep it up.

Unknown said...

Gene illustrates how "...the tree...seemed to me standing there to resemble those, men, the giants of your childhood, whom you encounter years later and find that they are not merely smaller in realtion to your growth, but that they are absolutely smaller, shruken by age" (Knowles 14).

Unknown said...

Original: "Dr. Stanpole sat down next to me and put his capable looking hand on my leg. 'This is something I think boys of your generation are going to see a lot of,' he said quietly, 'and I will have to tell you about it now. Your friend is dead.'" It seems as if Phineas willed himself to die or that he just didn't have the strength to carry on knowing that his life would be permanently altered and his relationship with Gene would never be the same again.

New: "Dr. Stanpole sat down next to me and put his capable looking hand on my leg. 'This is something I think boys of your generation are going to see a lot of,' he said quietly, 'and I will have to tell you about it now. Your friend is dead.'" The doctor believed that Finny's heart gave out due to bone marrow shooting right up to his heart, but the mood of the paragraph alludes to Finny dying of a broken heart. It seems as if Phineas willed himself to die or that he just didn't have the strength to carry on knowing that his life would be permanently altered and his relationship with Gene would never be the same again.

Rebecca Ru said...

Gene’s delusions of Finny surreptitiously wanting him to fail are causing him to create an inner enemy. Finny, his best friend, has been supporting him and encouraging him throughout his life, but Gene’s delusions cause him to take the encouragement and confidence that Finny has for him and turn him against Finny. Gene thinks that Finny envies his academic success. One day Gene asks Finny how he would feel if he achieved the honor of being valedictorian and Finny jokingly replies that he would kill himself out of envy; “I believed him. The jokingly manner was a screen; I believed him...up went the hope that there was anyone in this school—in this world—whom I could trust.” (Knowles 52-53) Finny was saying this because he knew that Gene was clearly going to be valedictorian by the dedication he has to schoolwork. Finny even said that Gene has no chance up against another boy in the school, named Chet Douglass, as a sarcastic comment that Gene thought he was being serious about. Gene is making things seem like they are something else when they are really not. Later on in the story Finny comes in to the room as Gene studies for a test and announces that Leper is planning to jump from the tree by the river and become a full member of their society. “I didn’t believe it for a second. Leper Lepellier would go down paralyzed with panic on any sinking troopship before making such a jump. Finny had put him up to it, to finish me for good on the exam.” (Knowles 57) Gene doesn’t believe that Leper would ever attempt the jump and concludes that Finny must have talked him into the attempt in order to interrupt Gene’s studying so Gene wouldn’t have the chance to be as equal academically to Finny athletically. Finny just wanted Gene to be included in an epic moment but Gene took it the wrong way. Gene also believes that the war would be a better place to be then school and he would rather be there. He is always mentioning how he can’t wait to grow up and graduate so he can enlist.

Amelia said...

It can definitely be agreed upon that John Knowles made important allusions to the bible while writing his novel, but why?

revision
John Knowles definitely made important allusions to the bible while writing his novel, but why?

Iago said...

In the novel, Knowles uses seasons to represent growing up and coming of age because seasons are a common symbol of change. They are also a universal symbol for life spans which is shown in the book because from the time the book begins in summer to the time it ends in winter both characters grow up. Each season has a certain time to change and every year that certain time holds true showing that no one is able to control the seasons just like no one can control a life span and the path it takes.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Brooke,

By the end of the summer, the boys realized that it was time to get more serious, and they were not ready for it.(WHO IS THINKING THIS? PUT IN CONTEXT) "The Summer Session closed, officially came to an end. But to me it seemed irresolutely suspened, halted strangely before its time" (Knowles, 67). The boys didn't want to grow up, desiring to stay young forever. The boys, just like seasons, have to change sooner or later.

Unknown said...

Many view World War 2 as a godless time, as many people were forced to give up such basic necessities as cloth to the war effort, without much mind for spirituality. "But of course, fifteen years before there had been a year going on. Perhaps the school wasn't as well kept in those days; perhaps varnish, like everything else, had gone to the war." Many were permanently affected by the war, as Gene was, even 15 yeats later. Gene could not accept the present reality; he had trouble realizing that the world was not stuggling to pull themselves through it any longer. His senior year at Devon had such a lasting imprint on him that he would sometimes wonder why there were no news from the war front.

Grace said...

N: Finny also makes a show of his denial when Gene attempts to confront him about what actually happened that night on the tree. "... I had kind of a feeling. But you can't say anthing for sure from just feelings. And this feeling doesn't make any sense. It was a crazy idea, I must have been delirious... I'm sorry about that feeling I had." (Knowles, 66) The fact that -Finny- is spouting this sincere apology to -Gene- is blatant proof that he is deluded.

Kimberly Rotter said...

START WITH CONTEXT. DESCRIBE THAT THIS IS AN APOLOGY. WHO SAYS IT TO WHOM AND WHY. "'I don't know., I must have just lost my balance. It must have been that. I did have this idea, this feeling that when you were standing beside me, y-- I don't know, I had a kind of feeling. But you can't anything for sure from just feelings. And this feeling doesn't make any sense. It was a crazy idea, I must have been delirious. So I just have to forget it. I just fell.' He turned away to grope for something among the pillows 'that' all.' Then he glanced back at me, 'I'm sorry about that feeling I had.'" (Knowles, 66) Finny refuses to believe Gene's own confession. Finny is deluding himself into believing that Gene hasn't wronged him in any way whatsoever.

george said...

In the end, Gene and Finny's denial is ultimately shattered when Leper sends a letter that he has broken away from the war and deserted the army . "I have escaped and need help. I am Christmas location . You understand.No need to risk address here. My safety depends on you coming at once . Your best friend Elwin Leper Lepellier."(Knowles 127) This telegram sends a shockwave through Gene makingnhim realize that the war is real and it is time for him to grow up. Thus adding to the theme of the story.

Zack said...

Original: Gene thinks Finny's intention was to do better than him and toout do him. "Finny deliberately set out to wreck mt studies."(Knowles 53). He thinks Finny's actions are to beat him in everything,even it school.

Revised: Gene thinks Finny's intention was to do better than him and to sabatoge him, Gene says "Finny deliberately set out to wreck mt studies."(Knowles 53). This informs the reader that from Gene's perspective he believes that Finny wants to sabatoge his work to make himself best at everything.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Amelia,

Your quotation is from the event where Finny breaks the rule by wearing a tie as a belt. Providing the background information about that will put the quotation in context.

Maria said...

Another example that exhibits the Bible’s influence in A Separate Peace is the comparison of Jesus and Phineas. Jesus is seen as a perfect man. He can’t do anything wrong because, according to the Bible, he is the son of God. He doesn’t have the capability of doing evil. Christians believe that Jesus was sent to die on the cross to save them of their sins. This belief means he saves them from hell in the after life. Finny, through the eyes of Gene, can’t do anything wrong just like Jesus. Finny was better than everyone at everything, especially when he broke the swimming record for the one hundred yard freestyle. Finny barely believed it himself, saying, “My God! So I really did it. You know what? I thought I was going to do it. It felt as though I had that stop watch in my head and I could hear myself going just a little bit faster than A. Hopkins Parker.(Knowles 41) The people around Finny, just like the people around Jesus, were amazed by the accomplishments they witnessed. Finny saves Gene’s life when he grabs his arm and keeps him from falling out of the tree. Gene admits, “If Finny hasn’t come up right behind me… if he hadn’t been there… I could have fallen on the bank and broken my back! If I had fallen awkwardly enough I could have been killed. Finny had practically saved my life.” (Knowles 32) This reference of the salvation story shows the connection that Phineas has with Jesus.

Iago said...

Topic Sentence: The winter season of 1942 takes a completely different toll on the characters in the story when it forces them to grow up and take the next step in life from childhood to adulthood.

Is this a good topic sentence for my paragraph about winter? I don't know what else to write.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Julia,

I need more to understand. But just from this, I don't understand how Gene is illustrating something...


Gene illustrates how "...the tree...seemed to me standing there to resemble those, men, the giants of your childhood, whom you encounter years later and find that they are not merely smaller in realtion to your growth, but that they are absolutely smaller, shruken by age" (Knowles 14).

Unknown said...

Original: Everything during the summer time is bright and full of fun and laughter. "This kind of sunshine and ocean, with the accumulating roar of the surf and the salty, adventurous, flirting wind from the sea, always intoxicated Phineas. He was everywhere, he enjoyed himself hugely, he laughed out loud at passing seagulls" (Knowles 47).

New: The summer time resembles youth where it's always bright and full of fun and laughter just like in A Separate Peace where the characters have no worries during this season. Phineas and Gene enjoyed the freedom of being a child by going to the beach to take in the feeling of pure happiness, "This kind of sunshine and ocean, with the accumulating roar of the surf and the salty, adventurous, flirting wind from the sea, always intoxicated Phineas. He was everywhere, he enjoyed himself hugely, he laughed out loud at passing seagulls" (Knowles 47). They skipped school one day because consequences didn’t apply to them at the time. The boys could go to the beach and just entirely be kids one last time before the end of the season.

Amelia said...

...the other, Cain, not so much.

revision
....there are 2 brothers, Abel, earnest and hardworking, the other, Cain, is lazy and selfish.

Brittanee said...

The boys at Devon School spend alot of time climbing a tree that they are specifically told not to. Gene is afraid to but is pressured to. Gene shows this when he says, "With the sensation that i was throwing my life away, i jumped into space. (knowles 17). The fact that the boys dont think of the consequence of jumping from the tree shows their immaturity and their childish ways.

Amelia said...

God is very pleased with this as well as with Abel.

revision
God is very please with Abel's offering.

Unknown said...

Finny is a positive person and never puts someone down. He doesn't have a mean bone in his body which leads to his quality of putting others in his helping hand. He can't participate in the olympics so he is now reaching out to help coach his bestfriend Gene, in hopes that Gene will accomplish the winter olympics for him. "Well I was. And now I'm not sure, not a hundred percent sure I'll be completely, you know, in shape by 1944. So I'm going to coach you for them instead. We're grooming you for the Olympics, pal, in 1944"(Knowles 117).

Kevin said...

When Gene gets back to Devon all the boys are ready to enlist in the war. But Finny has a different opinion of the war, he thinks it the elders trying to keep young people in there place. When the school master says that the boys should be dedicating there time to prepare for war and Finny just say "no" and this is a completely different opinion than before he returned to Devon.

Zack said...

Original: Gene wants to believe there is some kind of rivalry between them. "We were even after all, even in enmity. The deadly rivalry was on both sides after all." (Knowles 54)


Revised: Gene wants to believe there is some kind of rivalry between him and Finny. "We were even after all, even in enmity. The deadly rivalry was on both sides after all." (Knowles 54). The author shows the reader how Gene actually thinks there is a rivalry between the two friends when that is just how it is from Gene's perpective and there is no rivalry between the two.

Unknown said...

Gene, in his own mind, belives that Finny is trying to lead him away from studying and doing good in school so that Finny will get all the recognition with his athletics. Finny tries to distract Gene by taking him outside to the tree. "Okay, we go. We watch little lil-Lepellier not jump from the tree, and I ruin my grade"(Knowles 57).

Amelia said...

he selfishly brings a mediocre offering from his crop field, God rejects his offering

revision
God rejects his selfishly mediocre offering.

Kimberly Rotter said...
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Kimberly Rotter said...

Finny, his best friend, has been supporting Gene and encouraging him throughout his life, but Gene’s delusions cause him to take the encouragement and confidence that Finny has for him and turn him against Finny. Gene’s mistakenly thinks that Finny surreptitiously wants him to fail, beginning with his academic career. One day Gene asks Finny how he would feel if he achieved the honor of being valedictorian and Finny jokingly replies that he would kill himself out of envy; “I believed him. The jokingly manner was a screen; I believed him...up went the hope that there was anyone in this school—in this world—whom I could trust.” (Knowles 52-53). Gene is mistaken though. Finny was joking, knowing that Gene was clearly going to be valedictorian by the dedication he has to schoolwork. Finny even said that Gene has no chance up against another boy in the school, named Chet Douglass, as a sarcastic comment that Gene thought he was being serious about.(PREVIOUS SENTENCE NEEDS A LITTLE WORK) Gene’s jealousy is coloring Finny’s comments, making things seem like they are something else when they are really not. Later on in the story Finny comes in to the room as Gene studies for a test and announces that Leper is planning to jump from the tree by the river and become a full member of their society. “I didn’t believe it for a second. Leper Lepellier would go down paralyzed with panic on any sinking troopship before making such a jump. Finny had put him up to it, to finish me for good on the exam.” (Knowles 57) Gene doesn’t believe that Leper would ever attempt the jump and concludes that Finny must have talked him into the attempt in order to interrupt Gene’s studying so Gene wouldn’t have the chance to be as equal academically to Finny athletically. Finny just wanted Gene to be included in an epic moment but Gene took it the wrong way. JUMP IN IDEAS. NEED TRANSITION. Gene also believes that the war would be a better place to be then school and he would rather be there. He is always mentioning how he can’t wait to grow up and graduate so he can enlist.

Unknown said...

In the story of Cain and Abel, the two brothers went to a mountain to give their offerings to Abba. The mountain resembles them as young men because they are becoming more mature in participating in the adult ritual with their offerings. “Atop the mountain they set up camp and each person prepared for their part in the feast. This year was to be special. It was the first year that Cain and Abel would approach Abba as young men.” (Bible)

Kimberly Rotter said...

George,
In the end, Gene and Finny's denial IN??? is ultimately shattered when Leper sends them a letter describing his dersertion from the army . "I have escaped and need help. I am Christmas location . You understand.No need to risk address here. My safety depends on you coming at once . Your best friend Elwin Leper Lepellier"(Knowles 127. This telegram surprises Gene, who now realizes that the war is real and it is time for him to grow up. This adds to the theme of the story because....

Kimberly Rotter said...

Zach,

Gene mistakenly thinks that Finny wants to be the best at everything. Gene believes that Finny is trying to sabotage him, believing that "Finny deliberately set out to wreck my studies"(Knowles 53).

Kimberly Rotter said...

Maria,

Knowls basing his Phineas character in the Jesus provides another example of the Bible’s influence on the story. According to the Bible, Jesus is a perfect man. He can’t do anything wrong because he is the son of God. He doesn’t have the capability of doing evil. Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross to save them of their sins. This belief means he saves them from hell in the after life. NEED TRANSITION. Gene believes that Finny can’t do anything wrong, that he is perfect like Jesus. Finny seemed better than everyone at everything, especially when he broke the swimming record for the one hundred yard freestyle. Finny barely believed it himself, saying, “My God! So I really did it. You know what? I thought I was going to do it. It felt as though I had that stop watch in my head and I could hear myself going just a little bit faster than A. Hopkins Parker.(Knowles 41) DID HE BRAG ABOUT IT? HUMBLE? CAN YOU SEE A CONNECTION TO JESUS???? Finny saves Gene’s life when he grabs his arm and keeps him from falling out of the tree. Gene admits, “If Finny hasn’t come up right behind me… if he hadn’t been there… I could have fallen on the bank and broken my back! If I had fallen awkwardly enough I could have been killed. Finny had practically saved my life.” (Knowles 32)…..

Kimberly Rotter said...

Briana,

The winter season of 1942, which is drastically different than the summer, represent adulthood. The season reveals the kids growing up and taking the next step in life from childhood to adulthood.

What do you think? Is this your agument?

Kimberly Rotter said...

Briana,

The winter season of 1942, which is drastically different than the summer, represent adulthood. The season reveals the kids growing up and taking the next step in life from childhood to adulthood.

What do you think? Is this your agument?

Kimberly Rotter said...

Sam,

In a Separate Peace, summer time symbolizes youth. Summer at Devon are always bright and full of fun and laughter. The characters have no worries during this season. Phineas and Gene enjoyed the freedom of being a child by going to the beach to take in the feeling of pure happiness. "This kind of sunshine and ocean, with the accumulating roar of the surf and the salty, adventurous, flirting wind from the sea, always intoxicated Phineas. He was everywhere, he enjoyed himself hugely, he laughed out loud at passing seagulls" (Knowles 47). They skipped school one day because consequences didn’t apply to them at the time. (EXPLAIN HOW THIS SHOWS CHILDHOOD. LESS RESPONSIBILITIES...)The boys could go to the beach and just entirely be kids one last time before the end of the season(BEFORE THEY GROW UP PERHAPS...CAN YOU MAKE THAT CONNECTIONS?)

Kimberly Rotter said...

Amelia,
there are 2 brothers, Abel, earnest and hardworking, and Cain, lazy and selfish.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Brittannee,

The boys at Devon School spend alot of time climbing a forbidden tree. Gene is afraid to but is pressured (BY) to (DO WHAT). (TELL US WHO WAS PRESSING HIM, AND YOU HAVE TO TELL US WHAT THEY DO AT TREE FOR QUOTATION TO MAKE SENSE). Gene shows this when he says, "With the sensation that i was throwing my life away, i jumped into space. (knowles 17). The fact that the boys don't think of the consequence of jumping from the tree shows their immaturity and their childish ways.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Cara,

Finny is a generous, and empathetic person who is incapable of hurting another person intentionally. He can't participate in the olympics (WHY?) so he is coaching his bestfriend Gene, in hopes that Gene will accomplish his dream of making the winter olympics for him. He tells Gene that" I'm going to coach you for them instead. We're grooming you for the Olympics, pal, in 1944"(Knowles 117).

Kimberly Rotter said...

Amelia,

Good.
God rejects his selfishly mediocre offering.

Unknown said...

the Bible story, Cain and Abel describes the relationship between Gene and Finny. Cain and Abel is a story about two brothers, in which the one brother, Cain murders his brother, Abel out of jealousy. Cain's jealousy for Abel is like Gene's jealousy for Finny in A Separate Peace. In the beginning of the story it is summer and the boys are the best of friends, Finny shows Genes importance to him by saying " you can't come to the shore with just anybody and you can't come by yourself, and at this teenage period in my life the proper person is my best pal... which is what you are." (Knowles 48) As the summer continues Gene begins to realizes how great Finny really is and comes to the conclusion the are in a competition. Gene becomes obsessed with beating Finny, when it came to school though he new he was better then Finny so, he would work extra hard to get the best grades and say they were "even" on some level "... it was all calculated, and it was all enmity... we were even after all, even in enmity." (Knowles 53, 54) During one of their many Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session meeting, Finny suggest that both him and Gene climb to the branch in the forbidden tree and jump at the same time. Gene complies and when they reach the top and Finny get out on the edge of the limb Gene looses himself and jerks the branch and with a quick look to his friend, Finny fell back to earth and onto the bank. " hiding firmly to the trunk, I took a step toward him, and then my knees bent and I jounced the limb." (Knowles 59, 60) Though these two stories have differences it also has many similarities which shows that Knowles used the Bible as a reference to help create this novel.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Zach,

Gene wants to believe there is a rivalry between him and Finny, believing "We were even after all, even in enmity. The deadly rivalry was on both sides after all." (Knowles 54). This rivalry only exists in Gene's perceptive. Finny does not believe that there is a rivalry between the two.

Kimberly Rotter said...

Kevin,

When Gene returns to Devon all the boys are ready to enlist in the war.(WHY??? WHAT IS THERE BELIEF?) But Finny has a different opinion of the war. He thinks it the elders (OF VARIOUS COUNTRIES??? EXPLAIN FINNNYS VIEW FURTHER) trying to keep young people in there place. Finny, in a reversal of his previous opinion (YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT THAT OPINION WAS, AND WHAT CHANGED IT), disagrees with the school master arguing that the boys should be dedicating there time to prepare for war.